When You Thought…
Filed Under (Journal) by Casey on 09-05-2009
Tags: Bullshit, EA Boss, FAPTurbo, Piracy, RemExpert
When I started out this blog, I wrote that Forex EA would be a breeding ground for scammers. And I think I hit the nail with it. But on the other hand anything that has to do with internet is a breeding round for scammers… All you need to do is find the opportunity and exploit it to the max!
When you are good people will copy you… when I say copy I mean literally.
As time goes by, I seem to believe more and more that FAPTurbo is in it’s pure sense original. Why? Is it because it is popular or is it because FAPTurbo is indeed a profitable product.
If it was, then people would sure copy it. If it is not then… screw it. Let’s move on to the next EA.
What’s my point? Well… my point is, FAPTurbo is profitable. We just need to use it properly. It is profitable because people are actually coping it.
After stumbling upon REMExpert. I stumble upon this site. Ok.. I did not actually stumble upon this site. A visitor as usual ask me to decompile an EA. So I decompile it, saw the link and voila….
This is what I found….
EA BOSS is the name and the site is www.ea-boss.com

Nice looking website… Interesting testimonial…
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And another thing that straight away interest me is this… Hmmm… very similar currency pair.

Dum de dum…. look at the codes… what do you know. It’s an exact replica or FAPTurbo


Need I say more?? Oh yeah… and it cost $699 a piece!!!
Gawd dang!! They are really cashing in on unsuspected sheeps… Beware….












Why are the results of trade do not match? Are you don`t show us the same files with different names? Why we must trust you?
Hi! Which results are you referring to? Oh… if you have tested both these EA and believe that the results are not the same. Then I am not sure why the trade results are different.
FAPTurbo itself does not show consistent results even from the same broker. Either between demo to demo or between demo to live or between demo to live.
I have only tested on FAPTurbo. If you have the decompile version of both these files, you can compare. Not all the codes are the same. That could probably cause different results. Ok… maybe I should not use the word replica. As it would mean exactly the same. The right would to use is ‘Reverse Engineered’ I suppose.
The author I believe have to change some of the codes to get around the dll file which requires an ID KEY as in FAPTurbo.
Yes, I can if you mean fabricate this story and just change the file name to show comparison and make EA Boss look bad.
And no, you should not trust me because you don’t know me. For all you know, I maybe just cooking up stories so that people visit my blog.
One thing you can do is to download EA BOSS demo, get someone to decompile the file for you. Then get a copy of FAPTurbo, and again get someone to decompile the file for you, compare and verify my post here.
I mean this is a blog… I just share what I see. Again… who knows I may have a hidden agenda.
Shit I purchased that EA _BOss damn it i got ripped off!!
Hello Chris, Excuse me, what does means? Do you find a good EA or you are telling us that it is a scam?
thank you
Hello sir
i am eager to purchase it … is it real scam or it is a prifitable EA ??????
Well… you might as well buy FAPTurbo if you are interested in EA Boss… cause it is using the same codes as FAPTurbo….
And FAPTurbo is cheaper…
Fapturbo is great. I am member of this EA. Their support also great. Just visit my website to see my result.Thanks.
hello i am new her i want to try it how can i
@Essam…. just register to my site and you will gain access to my library….
I have a demo copy of EA Boss. It definitely started off as a copy of FAP Turbo, which I also own, but EA Boss is a much better EA. It would be a good idea for the FAP Turbo team to update their ea with the EA Boss programming.
@Global… I did ask them to take a look at RemExpert and see if they could improve on their codes, but they replied that the codes were the same but never mentioned that they will do any improvements….
Come to think of it… After I send to them the codes to RemExpert… they came up with FAPTurbo Evolution….
Yeah… maybe I should give them the codes to EA Boss and see if they will come up with another FAPTurbo Revolution….
Hey, in the end, what’s the difference, you might think that the RSI and MA has invented by fapturbo team? My opinion that the BOSS is the next step forward compared with the lagging Fapturbo. Someone also must move forward robotics. Let it be at least EA Boss, and they do not need to interfere in the end it’s for the benefit of us! Let the winning traders and brokers do not!
It is true I have lost so much money with this fapturbo. They did not improve their robot.
(((( I am going to pay for those who really works, rather than mooch!!!
Really FAPTURBO=SCAM
I am not agree that EA BOSS is an others fabturbo. Some part of this program is correct the same.. but for the EA builder part of script eazy taken from others EA.
For exmaple the script of:
Lotoptimized,
TrailingStop,
Hedging,
And Fabturbo compare with EA Boss use different indicator:
See below for Fabturbo:
bool PrepareIndicators() {
double l_ifractals_20;
g_icustom_1280 = iCustom(NULL, 0, “Alligator”, 13, 8, 8, 5, 5, 3, 0, 0);
g_icustom_1288 = iCustom(NULL, 0, “Alligator”, 13, 8, 8, 5, 5, 3, 1, 0);
g_icustom_1296 = iCustom(NULL, 0, “Alligator”, 13, 8, 8, 5, 5, 3, 2, 0);
l_ifractals_20 = iFractals(NULL, 0, MODE_LOWER, li_4);
if (l_ifractals_20 != 0.0) g_ifractals_1320 = l_ifractals_20;
l_ifractals_20 = iFractals(NULL, 0, MODE_UPPER, li_4);
if (l_ifractals_20 != 0.0) g_ifractals_1328 = l_ifractals_20;
gda_1384[li_4] = iDeMarker(NULL, 0, FapTurbo_aaa, li_4);
gda_1388[li_4] = (-iWPR(NULL, 0, FapTurbo_bbb, li_4 + 1)) / 100.0;
}
g_ima_1336 = iMA(NULL, PERIOD_D1, FapTurbo_PeriodMALarge, 0, FapTurbo_TypeMA_0_3, FapTurbo_PriceMA_0_6, FapTurbo_ShiftMALarge);
g_ima_1344 = iMA(NULL, PERIOD_D1, FapTurbo_PeriodMALarge, 0, FapTurbo_TypeMA_0_3, FapTurbo_PriceMA_0_6, 0);
g_ima_1352 = iMA(NULL, PERIOD_D1, FapTurbo_PeriodMASmall, 0, FapTurbo_TypeMA_0_3, FapTurbo_PriceMA_0_6, FapTurbo_ShiftMASmall);
g_ima_1360 = iMA(NULL, PERIOD_D1, FapTurbo_PeriodMASmall, 0, FapTurbo_TypeMA_0_3, FapTurbo_PriceMA_0_6, 0);
g_ima_1368 = iMA(NULL, PERIOD_D1, FapTurbo_PeriodMALarge, 0, FapTurbo_TypeMA_0_3, FapTurbo_PriceMA_0_6, FapTurbo_LookForDays + FapTurbo_ShiftMALarge);
g_ima_1376 = iMA(NULL, PERIOD_D1, FapTurbo_PeriodMASmall, 0, FapTurbo_TypeMA_0_3, FapTurbo_PriceMA_0_6, FapTurbo_LookForDays + FapTurbo_ShiftMASmall);
double l_ima_4 = iMA(NULL, PERIOD_D1, FapTurbo_PeriodMALarge, 0, FapTurbo_TypeMA_0_3, FapTurbo_PriceMA_0_6, FapTurbo_ShiftMALarge + ai_0);
double l_ima_12 = iMA(NULL, PERIOD_D1, FapTurbo_PeriodMALarge, 0, FapTurbo_TypeMA_0_3, FapTurbo_PriceMA_0_6, FapTurbo_LookForDays + FapTurbo_ShiftMALarge + ai_0);
double l_ima_20 = iMA(NULL, PERIOD_D1, FapTurbo_PeriodMASmall, 0, FapTurbo_TypeMA_0_3, FapTurbo_PriceMA_0_6, FapTurbo_ShiftMASmall + ai_0);
double l_ima_28 = iMA(NULL, PERIOD_D1, FapTurbo_PeriodMASmall, 0, FapTurbo_TypeMA_0_3, FapTurbo_PriceMA_0_6, FapTurbo_LookForDays + FapTurbo_ShiftMASmall + ai_0);
HideTestIndicators(TRUE);
l_irsi_20 = iRSI(NULL, 0, g_period_768, PRICE_CLOSE, 0);
l_irsi_28 = iRSI(NULL, PERIOD_M1, g_period_776, PRICE_CLOSE, 0);
bool Scalper_CheckSimpleHeightFilter() {
int l_datetime_4;
bool li_0 = FALSE;
if (NormalizeDouble(iHigh(NULL, PERIOD_M15, 1) – iLow(NULL, PERIOD_M15, 1), gi_880) > gd_1220) li_0 = TRUE;
if (NormalizeDouble(iHigh(NULL, PERIOD_M15, 2) – iLow(NULL, PERIOD_M15, 2), gi_880) > gd_1220) li_0 = TRUE;
EA BOSS
HideTestIndicators(TRUE);
double l_irsi_0 = iRSI(NULL, PERIOD_M15, g_period_140, PRICE_CLOSE, 0);
double ld_8 = Ask + 0.0002;
double l_ima_16 = iMA(NULL, PERIOD_M15, g_period_136, 0, MODE_SMA, PRICE_MEDIAN, 1);
double ld_24 = Bid – 0.0002;
double l_irsi_32 = iRSI(NULL, PERIOD_M1, g_period_148, PRICE_CLOSE, 0);
bool BOSS_CheckTrendFilter() {
double ld_4;
double ld_12;
double ld_20;
if (gi_172 <= 0) return (FALSE);
for (int li_0 = 0; li_0 gd_572) break;
}
if (li_0 > gi_176) return (FALSE);
return (TRUE);
}
bool BOSS_CheckBOSSvolaFilter() {
int l_datetime_4;
bool li_0 = FALSE;
if (NormalizeDouble(iHigh(NULL, PERIOD_M15, 1) – iLow(NULL, PERIOD_M15, 1), gi_404) > gd_652) li_0 = TRUE;
if (NormalizeDouble(iHigh(NULL, PERIOD_M15, 2) – iLow(NULL, PERIOD_M15, 2), gi_404) > gd_652) li_0 = TRUE;
if (li_0) {
l_datetime_4 = iTime(NULL, PERIOD_M15, 0);
if (g_datetime_468 != l_datetime_4) {
Print(“Trade is forbidden by the EA BOSS Volatility Filter.”);
g_datetime_468 = l_datetime_4;
}
return (TRUE);
}
return (FALSE);
}
That all for EA boss
Yes Aulia, when I tried to modify this EA boss for the hedging format, I found that some loop not taken from FAPTurbo.
I think EA boss not quite responsive to the market movement
So you still do not know who was behind Fapturbo? They do not want to return my money.
@Aulia: you might be right.. it’s a clone… with a few modification. but have not really tired EA Boss to really see how it works. Just recently tested EABoss… might do a post on it soon…
@Sergiel: when did u buy your copy? if it’s within 8 weeks… go to clickbank directly to seek ur refund.
My problem really is not whether it is a clone or not but is it really profitable as shown on their site =,if it is then it is worth the price and does better than fabturbo i own fabturbo but results are no where near what EA boss is claiming,so how has your testing gone so far CASEY.
@AYUBA… my approach is the same as yours… is it worth the money, for that kind of ‘promised’ profits?
If fapturbo is any indication @ 99 bucks you do not get the kind of ‘promised’ profits… then what is 699 bucks which is a clone of fapt with a few modification and the the same sort of ‘promised’ or better?
Frankly speaking… i don’t really know. I have not done any test side by side testing. I just raised the point that they are both the about the same in codes but way different in price.
I tired to do some backtesting recently and I was not able to backtest EA Boss… so I left it at that and move on…
Hi ;
how is it possible to have look in set up EA Boss?
Is not mql language set up ?
David.
I have Fapturbo, It works for sometime but now is loosing trade a lot. Please i need a very good EA with proof, can someone recemmend one. Please make sure you have used it and it works. thanks
I have tested both BOOS and FAPT 49 Together.
They both have results which are as far as land and sky. Trust me, I am not a a part of them or any scammer.
Just my 2 cents. EA BOSS outperforms FAPT. EA BOSS is anyday better than FAPT. If FAPT can make that change, thier EA might become better; Its becase I have done side by side testing and got both of the robots. I am gonna go soon Live with EA BOSS on Alpari UK. I’ll share my live account results on MT4Live.com soon after EA Boss Starts Working!
Cheer!
DoCo
@DoCo… yes please… please share your results…
Oh… use myfxbook.com. Much better and much credible. I would rather believe statements coming from myfxbook then from MT4Live.com. I hate the pop up from MT4Live.
DOCO- Even before your live testing- can you tell us here in the forum what the results have been like on your demo account of EA boss??
Okay Sure,
Hand in Hand i’ll put FAPT 49 on EURGBP ( My Fav. Pair ) and put it on DEMO and give you a solid comparison and contrast in both the experts.
Harsh
i think ea boss is better than fapturbo because i am backtesting both ea-both is a little better than fapturbo
@Mojtaba… interesting… i should probably retest this again…
I came accross this website: fapturbo, boss: it’s all a scam but you won’t believe me. It’s a marketing scheme: affliates with fake review websites. Scam rule n1: look for greedy people…. These things don’t work.
So has anyone been having good results with the boss?
Hi, I tried it backtest but it fail, the support say it becouse the broker. Is any good broker that it work well?
I don’t think BOSS EA is same as FabT. No way it is…
I ran live (real money) with FabT and BOSS EA and it’s not even close being the same EA. Maybe it has a part of the same coding, but I am 100% sure it is not the clone of the same. That much I know. Also, I found Traxxon EA, which, I think it is similar to BOSS EA. But, it is still not exactly same. (because test results are not same). However, what I do not know is, which create first? BOSS EA? Traxxon EA? or it is create by same people of BOSS EA group? Regardless, BOSS EA is near $ 700.00 and Traxxon can be purchased at approx $150.00. Both results are amazing! NO>> I am NOT affiliate with anyone or any site. I am just getting sick of people using the word “SCAM”. When something is out of norm in nice way, immediately, someone thinks they are out to get you and use word “SCAM”.
Hai..plz send me the demo version of this robot plzzz..I really need to test it..
I started trading with Fapturbo in Sept 2009. It immediately lost $2000 out of my account. I then noticed that the robots trades where consistantly placed in the opposite direction of the current trend. I started manually trading against the robot and wait for the trend to reverse. I grew the account to $36, 000 in three months. Starting with $5000 account. I then cashed out and reset the account in January 2010 and could not duplicate the results. In other words that strategy no longer worked. I purchased EA Boss about 8 months ago and was too busy with work to do any trading with it. I have recently begun trading with it and the results are pretty good. I first let it trade on it’s on and it immediately produced profits. Then after about two days of $20 profits each trade it lost a big trade of $160. I think my next move is the try and determine when it’s trading against the current trend and trade against the robot. Then when the trend reverses I will then reverse my position to capture even more profits. That’s how I turned $5000 into $36,000 even after taking a $2000 loss at the start of trading. Bottom line is Fapturbo worked for a while then was grossly inconsistant. If you can manually trade with Fapturbo it can still be profitable. But I think most traders can’t babysit the trades all day either. EA Boss has only been trading for a short time and show modest gains. I think the best advice is to not follow EA’s blindly but know something about reading indicators and some knowledge of the influences of the markets. If you trade a lot you should be familiar with currency pairs and their common trends. There is no substitute for basic understanding and knowledge. I wish there was a magic pill to conquer the markets as the Interment marketiers would have you believe but that’s impossible because the markets carry so many variable it’s impossible to create a robot that will perform well in all scenarios. I am trading with Interbank FX. That’s my two cents.
So, these guys are wrong (http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/public/review/www.ea-boss.com), they deceived us saying that the EA BOSS is a copy of the Fapturbo, Casey, yes or not?
@Dan… Technically EA Boss is not a copy of FAPTurbo. What EA Boss is a generic of FAPTurbo meaning, majority of the codes used are from FAPTurbo.
What EA Boss did was spoof up FAPTurbo and rename it EA Boss. So most of the algorithm is the same but some codes might be different.
It is sometimes call ‘Reverse Engineering’
We should not mislead people. To start with its wrong to say EA boss is a copy of FapTurbo or any EA for that matter without proof of who came with the code first. The fellow who claims this says he is a decompliler. Can he also give the exact dates when both codes were compiled?I have not seen that, However, that said, how many scientists have claimed to have been first with abc…..?Well I will leave you to answer that.
Now does it matter who invented the wheel?/or who copied the wheel?
To me what matters is the wheel turns and works and I think thats what we should be discussing. If Fapturbo feel they were copied thats their business.
As for price, If EA BOSS does what it says then that price in not any issue
Our discussion should be on real results. Anyone who has tested these EA on real accounts is worthy listenning to.
Those theorists with their reverse engineering and decompliling theories are of little help
As for me. I have tested the demo version of EA Boss and yes it does work and I had one loss but overall it was profitable.I will consider buying
The Forex Peace Army got it WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well… John… That’s a fair comment.
FAPTurbo defended their rights. EA Boss never said (or maybe I have not come across their defense that they did come up with the codes first) So it’s more probable that FAPTurbo did come up with the codes first. Just saying….
If it works for you then that is great. You can buy it or you can search from the internet and get a free copy. It’s available… Just saying…
Do hope that you can share with us your success on a real live account with this EA. If it’s great and works out really well for you. I will personally congratulate you.
And subsequently, I will put up a post just for you with your EA Boss result on myfxbook, verified and on real live account. On top of that… I will put your affiliate link to EA Boss on that post.
Sounds like a good idea to you?
Not releated to forex ea in any way; But I can say on one thing on my demo account it has been raking in pips big time into my account This is the best EA. There support is also very good and quick. I dont care if its a copy of any other EA it works and thats all that matters